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Making Luma mythicals farmable

Bacon4ever

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So currently Luma mythicals are not possible even if they are 2 1 in 10k chances a week is useless.

A way to spice up lairs for what I'm suggesting it dose not make luma mythical easy at all they are mythical they should be the rarest lumas in the game.

For my idea I think if each lair that you do beat all the trainers you make it to the end what if the mythical had a 5% chance to be its luma form.
When its its luma form and you beat it it drops a luma mythical egg where you have a 1 in 100 chance at getting a luma mythical.
Before hatters say that sounds too easy remember how long it takes to do just 1 lair and at a 5% chance at being luma that's 1 in 20 runs and that's only for a 1 in 100 chance so if u run perfectly that's 1 in ever 2k lair runs 1 in 2500 if you count likely fail runs if that's to hard could up the chances to 10% for the boss fight against mythical to be luma.

This may make people upset but to not make the normal egg obsolete have the luma eggs have no min svs.

Something like this gives people long term motivation to do lairs and gets people exited for lairs again like when they were first released.

I cant be the only one who thinks that battling the luma mythical for a chance to hatch the luma mythical would be kind of sick.


Possibly with this lets say the base chance for the mythical when you battel it has a 5% luma chance but then every weekend the mythical luma chance is increased to 10% chance to be luma when battling and for event lair weeks it could go all the way up to 20% chance for a limited amount of time.
With that it would encourage more people to do lairs on weekends and event weeks than normal making it a little easier to get groups on those days.
 
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Crystalitar

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... eh. Not liking the idea rlly. Srry.

You might get people screaming false advertisement bc the HYPE would almost always be met with letdown and demotivate people.
 

Cheware

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I can't imagine the hate filling this forum if one encountered a Mythical Tyranak but with a complete trash comp and no items due to a shitty run beforehand

Additionally, this would be a change only basically only for the most hardcore players, who would be the only players able to ever get Mythical Luma, I don't think that's a good thing.
 

Bacon4ever

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I can't imagine the hate filling this forum if one encountered a Mythical Tyranak but with a complete trash comp and no items due to a shitty run beforehand

Additionally, this would be a change only basically only for the most hardcore players, who would be the only players able to ever get Mythical Luma, I don't think that's a good thing.
your first reason is honesty a bad argument and im not even gonna bother to your second part it makes luma mythical actoly obtainable for every one so im confused?
 

DOGERUFF

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Is there even any evidence yet to suggest mythics are not locked?

Given we have gone this long without seeing one the chance of the lumas being available at all is looking slim.
 

Bacon4ever

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People have the motivation to do lairs long term: The 1/10,000 chance at a mythical luma.

Making them more common than all other means of luma acquisition is a really bad idea.
2 1 in 10k chances a week is not a reasonable. The way i suggested makes it so on aveage you get 1 luma mythical per 2000 perfect liar runs so more likely take you more like 2500 lair runs per 1 mythical remember that lairs don't take a few seconds or even 5 min the time it takes to complete each one varies so if 1 in 2500 lair runs is too easy you probly just haven't read threw the idea very thoroughly.
 

Pink G

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I think keep it as is but consider mythical luma events post-game release
 

Abbi-Tato

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I would be in favor of some saipark weeks being replaced with a new, much harder version of one of the lairs sometimes, that drops a 1/100 egg on defeat. I do mean considerably harder - something that not all players could do without spending the week there. That sounds like a good way to get luma mythicals out into the population without making them too common. If 1/100 is too common, 1/1k could work too
 

Crystalitar

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your first reason is honesty a bad argument and im not even gonna bother to your second part it makes luma mythical actoly obtainable for every one so im confused?

Bc while everyone wants a luma mythic, it should stay special and and absolute WOW to the whole community if anyone ever gets it.

Not for it.

Also the only confirmation we have is the lack of deconfirmation. Bc the devs rlly are vague and intentionally avoid tmstraight out answering.
 

Wolfguarde

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2 1 in 10k chances a week is not a reasonable.

On the contrary, this is not only reasonable for a creature that is meant to be a legendary, but necessary. The only thing that sets mythicals aside from the rest of the deck at the moment is their rarity. Nothing else makes them special. Nothing else sets apart getting a good one from farming any other tem. When someone gets a luma mythical, everyone on the server is going to remember who and when. And that's as it should be.

I did read your idea. All of it. I simply feel that making mythical lumas more obtainable is the worst possible thing Crema could do for them. They aren't meant to be farmable. They should never be farmable. Let getting one be the jackpot it's meant to be.
 

Bacon4ever

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When someone gets a luma mythical, everyone on the server is going to remember who and when. And that's as it should be.
agree with that statement and even if this idea was added that would still most likely be the case.

I did read your idea. All of it. I simply feel that making mythical lumas more obtainable is the worst possible thing Crema could do for them. They aren't meant to be farmable. They should never be farmable. Let getting one be the jackpot it's meant to be.
I agree that keeping them unobtainably rare for the short term now is 100% the smart move becase if they made them common or easy theres no way to fix it so. Kind of how they permanetly screwed up 5% 10% lumas by bringing them to siapark and then radars both were big mistakes and shold definatly 100% not be repeated with mythicals. How ever i disagree that getting a luma mythical shold be purely a lottery that every one gets 3 1 in 10k tickets a week yes there shold have to be some luck or a lot of luck but limmiting someone to 2 full odds encounter a week would be dum. It just becomes wow theres no way i can ever achive that unless i get purly lucky i think people shold have a opportunity to work hard grind lot of hours for a chance to get the mythical luma just like any luma. Having no way for people to grind for the luma mythical whold make almost every one that wants to at least try to get the luma mythcal upset while the 1 or 2 people a year that get it are just off the walls happy doesn't seem good for long term.
 

Wolfguarde

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To reiterate: We are talking about a mythical. It's not meant to be considered obtainable. Effective odds of 1/100k would not be unreasonable for a mythical luma. Getting one should be the epitome of good fortune. There is no circumstance under which it should be something that more than a handful of exist in the game within the first few years of play - if at all.
 
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Bacon4ever

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To reiterate: We are talking about a mythical. It's not meant to be considered obtainable. Effective odds of 1/100k would not be unreasonable for a mythical luma. Getting one should be the epitome of good fortune. There is no circumstance under which it should be something that more than a handful of exist in the game within the first few years of play - if at all.
Lets say the small chance they don't change luma mythical rareity there at bare minimum needs to be something rare people can hunt right now there is 0 planed luma temtem that are going to be rare if every tem gets a radar and all other spawns are in park ,a handful of 5% tems with no radars would be ok or 1% spawns or 1 in 10k chance spawns are a good option because a 1 in 10k chance at finding a tem in the wild would be way easier to get luma than the current rarety of luma mythicals. so id be fine if they kept the same rareity if and only if they make other tems rare if they dont i think it would be a very bad decision. suto mythicals / mini myticals would be a good alterative something people can hunt that cant get radars have limited fert mabe only like 3 fert but get 3 guaranteed 50 stats like lumas but are 1 in 1k 1in 5 k 1 in 10k spawns. If they go the route you want them to there has to be something else that is really rare and hard to get that are actoly huntable and not a lottery like the mythicals currently are and what you personally are wanting.
 

Wolfguarde

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No, there doesn't. That said, there already is: Radars. 5-10%s haven't been permanently removed. They were pulled with the intention of replacing them somewhere more fitting of the rarity the devs want them to have.

You seem hung up on the idea that accessibility (to a purely cosmetic asset) is more important than the rarity that gives it value. Radars already dangerously skew accessibility in a manner that trivialises rarity. There is no functional value to having a luma that isn't vastly outperformed by breeding normal 1+SV perfects toward a desired result. The only value lumas have is their rarity. The rarest of the rare should not be something people can realistically expect to farm - especially when there is no functional advantage to having it.

This all stems from the fact that lumas are currently the only desirable asset in the game to farm at endgame. What the game needs isn't more accessible lumas, but other prizes to work towards. Preferably prizes with some kind of functionality, so that lumas can take the backseat they need to be in to maintain their status as a desirable but functionally average trophy.
 

Moonie

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I think I prefer the luma mystics to just stay in the Lairs with the rare chance of meeting a Luma.

It ends up being one more motivation for people to keep doing the Lairs even after getting the Mystic Temtem.
 

Bacon4ever

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I think I prefer the luma mystics to just stay in the Lairs with the rare chance of meeting a Luma.

It ends up being one more motivation for people to keep doing the Lairs even after getting the Mystic Temtem.
Agreed that only way to get the luma mythical should be threw the lairs which gives long term reason to do the lairs.
 
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